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Post by SuPeRmAnMiKe on May 5, 2004 22:23:18 GMT -5
I know its supposed to be about the music and not the scenerio, but what Windsor needs is an all age venue, with a great P.A. system and enough speakers to fill the room with a great sound, a real stage so you can distinguish the band from the crowd lol, drum mics and speaker mics for the amps depending on the size of this venue and just how loud you want your music to be, and of course vocal mics.
What we need is a venue for the bands, by the bands that anyone of any age can go to. There needs to be a meeting with every band in Windsor, and some donation shows to bring this venue together. This could be pulled off with enough planning, if enough people cared. It would have to be a profitless organization and all profit goes towards making the venue better, and your band can play there no more then once a month, and a few people each month or two are elected to watch the venue, and if anything goes missing they are resonsible because they are the only ones who will have the keys. Of course the shows will always have the bigger bands in Windsor headlining it and I think there should never be a show where its all the biggest bands in Windsor, so it gives the little guys a chance to be heard by everyone.
Anyways these are just ideas, and I think the venue for the bands by the bands is a great idea, tell me what you think.
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Post by SuPeRmAnMiKe on May 6, 2004 0:11:20 GMT -5
Venue Ideas
· All ages venue · Couches · Food Stand/Snack Bar · Band Stand, for local bands to sell CD’s t-shirts etc… · $5 Cover charge to see bands · Stage · Lighting · Microphones (Vocals, Drums, Acoustics) · Mixer · P.A. Speakers 2 large in front, 2 smaller in the back, 2 Monitors · Music being played inbetween each band ( preferably local bands CD’s) · Hours for bands playing 7-12 (Any night of the week) 7-2 on weekends. · Nights no bands are booked will be open for band practices if we decide to rent the hall out by the month for a local jam space. No shows are to take place during a band practice. By this I mean don’t say it’s a band practice and then invite a million people there to watch you if you are caught you will get 1 warning and the next time your out and wont be welcome to the venue again. The venue will need all the support it can get as far as funding for it to stay alive.
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Post by SuPeRmAnMiKe on May 6, 2004 0:11:55 GMT -5
Venue Costs:
First and Last Months Rent: ???? 3 Couches: $350 each $1050 Food/Snack Bar: $200 to build · Chips $ 50 · Pop $ 80 · Candy Bars $ 50 Band Stand: $ 75 Stage: $500 to build Lighting: $200 Microphones: $300 Microphone Stands: $100 Mixer: $150 to rent/month P.A. Speakers: $120 to rent/month Utilities Expenses: $500 Total: $3375
That’s about total cost to have it open without knowing the first and last months rent.
If I had to estimate it would probably close to the $5000 - $6000 mark or higher with first and last months rent. If enough people got into this it wouldn’t be much at all to get this venue up and running. I have school to pay for, but after that any extra money I get I would definetly be willing to put into this venue, and hopefully you would be too.
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Post by SuPeRmAnMiKe on May 6, 2004 0:12:19 GMT -5
Now you all might think I'm just talking out of my ass here, but plans have been thought of before. These are just estimated numbers, but I think with enough planning and enough people behind it and helping out we could make an all age permanent venue in Windsor. If you want to help out with the planning of this email me at musicvenueideas@hotmail.com
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Post by SuPeRmAnMiKe on May 6, 2004 12:07:54 GMT -5
If we had enough people behing it, it could work, if even just 20 people wanted in to make $6000 thats only $300 each, I know it seems like alot of money, but once the scene starts picking up and people find out about it if its advertised enough then we could give back the $300 to each person and then make it after that that all money earned goes towards making the venue better, and all these 20 people are the owners and will run the building and hopefully at least 3-5 of these people would be free on any given weekend to be-able to open up for it, the more people we have the cheaper, and easier it will be to run it. Of course the whole scene involved might not be too good of an idea because then we would have a hard time paying bills and making any extra cash unless they were jsut there as labour and not putting any money into it and they wanted to do it as community service or something. I would say no more then 20-30 people should be involved in the financial element of this because you know the runners of this arent going to want to pay to get in, and if more then that are involved we wouldnt make any money. And look at it this way if we get 30 people thats only $200 each instead of $300.
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ThisWillNeverEnd
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This is so perfect,I hope it never ends
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Post by ThisWillNeverEnd on May 6, 2004 17:36:11 GMT -5
This isn't a huge concert for 10000 people.Some this is good,excet that the codt is enormous.But lights...it dosen't have to be an elaborate,flashy thing...most people go for the music.
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Post by SuPeRmAnMiKe on May 6, 2004 21:05:20 GMT -5
I'm only planning on spending like $200 on lights, just a couple stroble lights and maybe s small stage light type thing just so you can see the band, most people when they go out like a darker place but like to beable to see the band as well.
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Post by HelloEmoKid on May 10, 2004 9:38:36 GMT -5
The Band Stand Should sell Other bands Stuff if they are playing or if they are not playing
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Post by SuPeRmAnMiKe on May 10, 2004 16:39:27 GMT -5
We would do it that way, but the bands would have to be there at the show to sell there merch, right now we can't afford to just buy bands merch to sell at shows, but once we can maybe we will, we don't even have the funds for this yet, but we are trying.
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rockthe40oz
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Post by rockthe40oz on May 12, 2004 21:40:32 GMT -5
okay, you could almost certainly cut way the fuck down on all the costs of this shit, but if you need bands to play for a benefit show or four, let me know. i know bands as well, so, yeah. if you need people to play, then let me know. if you put on a benefit, lets say you bring in 200 kids if you flyer and promote real good and bring good bands, you got like a thousand bucks minus the renting fee. s'all good. so, yeah. love, shane
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Post by Mattu Von Doom on May 13, 2004 15:22:04 GMT -5
you laways got the false hopes...but someone should bok the cut throats cause they're real good and no one books them... www.cutthroats.tkfrickin real good nuts
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Post by Mattu Von Doom on May 13, 2004 15:24:07 GMT -5
and dude...for the first couple of shows at this venue you dont need all that fancy shit...just the rent...the money coming in from the shows that go on there will pay for everything else...
all you need is some outlets for the amps...
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Post by jamie on May 13, 2004 23:12:44 GMT -5
hey i think this is a great idea and windsor needs something like this, and if organized and researched properly this place could make some money as well as a name for itself in windsor. i am definately interested in helping out, i have been thinking of doing this myself lately. you would need someone with a good job, if you could get a promotion company or another club to go in with you that would be great, so you have steady funds so a bank would approve for a loan for the place, playing benifit shows for the down payment is a great idea but you will still need a loan from the bank to get the venue. having a couple people in charge of the place rather than 20-30 may be a better choice, just cause the bank is less likely to give a loan with 30 people's names on it but if a couple of people get the main control on the building, other people involved could act as tenants, where they sign a contract and maybe get 12 bands, to sign a contract saying they will pay 1 months rent out of the year, that way you know the rent is payed and paying the rent for 1 month shouldnt be too hard considering you can probably hold at least 4 successful shows. you would want a venue with at least a capacity of 250 people, in a good central location so its not a problem for people to make it out to the show, the place should have decent accoustics so the sound doesnt sound crappy, if it doesnt sound good ppl wont be as likely to go as often. you would probably need a 600-1000watt pa board and speakers, 3 monitors and at least 6 mic's to start. in a venue of 250ppl capacity you wont need to mic everything. eventually drum mic's would be a good idea. renting the space out for practice during the week is a good idea to pay for some of the clubs other bills, lighting, heat, water, property tax, licences and you would prob have to hire an accountant to do all the proper paperwork for the government. it would also be cool to have a insulated room that can be used for recording, just something to think of but i think your off to a good start, let me know if i can help out in any way jamie far from right jamieffr@hotmail.com
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Jaime
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Post by Jaime on May 14, 2004 10:00:42 GMT -5
i have a thought...if this is seen as a long term investment and project, then the only problem u might have is that most of the kids that go to the shows now are underage, when they turn 19 a lot of them are going to want to go out and drink on friday and saturday nights and u may no longer have an audience. since punk is starting to (slightly) fade from mainstream play, if u don't get a new audience every year, after like 5 years if might not work out. this is only really a problem if u r investing a lot of $$$ right away that u want to make back over the years (like if u have to buy the building), if like u said u r going to get it donated or rent it (hopefully cheap) then it might not be a problem, also if the venue is established after a cpl years, u might wanna get a liquor license if there is a demand...just sumthin to consider
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Post by HelloEmoKid on May 25, 2004 15:12:16 GMT -5
You should have one big show to raise money for it and Just ahave a mix of different types of bands there To bring more people
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