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Post by Spit On a Stranger on Jun 19, 2008 22:41:59 GMT -5
Well, there's no other reason to drink than to be intoxicated
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Post by olive on Jun 20, 2008 0:09:26 GMT -5
not necessarily sometimes its fine to have a shot to calm you...it actually helps me sleep sometimes. In no way am i completely intoxicated by it though. Marijuana can be used for medicinal purposes too...i dont feel like explaining them all here im sure most of you already know.
Personally I think this straight edge shit gets to extreme at times, but i respect people that make that decision...without being an ass to people who choose to drink, smoke ect
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Post by pink_shoes AKA gary nicman on Jun 20, 2008 9:00:58 GMT -5
not necessarily sometimes its fine to have a shot to calm you...it actually helps me sleep sometimes.
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Post by James Brown on Jun 20, 2008 9:51:06 GMT -5
If you're going to be edge then be edge. If you're going to do a shot here and there, then don't call yourself sxe. Seems pretty simple to me.
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Post by Spit On a Stranger on Jun 20, 2008 10:05:09 GMT -5
In no way am i completely intoxicated by it though. But you are. Why else would it help you sleep?
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Post by monica on Jun 20, 2008 11:18:29 GMT -5
this became the most retarded thread ever.
i watched the documentary and it seemed decent. didn't dig the focus on militancy or parallels they were trying to make with religion (i.e. kids "finding themselves"/"something to have faith in"). the majority of people i know who don't drink or do drugs do it for a really simple reason, and that's the will to not be a fucking idiot. i didn't drink or do drugs for 4 or 5 years and it was awesome. my "crew" or my opinions on a person or my fucking choice of sweatshirts was nothing to do with straight edge. it's a choice of consumption. it's a personal one, and in this doc it seems as if its a choice of belonging/brotherhood made by their respective crews. the illogicality of expecting everyone to adopt the same lifestyle is wack. i have no desire to align myself with militants on either side.
i wish there was more of a focus on it's foundations in the 80s (real) hardcore scene, because a lot of the kids featured in this film are proliferating the same bullshit meathead motherfucker ignorance/attitude i was defying by not drinking or doing drugs. shame.
and returning to this, they didn't mention anything about girls?!
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Post by Brian on Jun 20, 2008 12:12:51 GMT -5
there's always a thread like this on the board every few months or so, i'm surprised it's only 3 pages long at this point
everyone should watch every ian mckaye interview they can get their hands on, and see what he has to say about staight edge and how it's completely become this thing that he never intended it to be
also, just because that's when hardcore got it's start, doesn't make today's scene any less "real"
furthermore, i'm pretty sure that when you say you don't drink or do drugs for the "simple reason" to not be a fucking idiot, is in my opinion taking the same extremist stance that you say you're opposed to - i do drink and do drugs and i, nor people that know me, would call me a fucking idiot
but yes, what's good for the goose is not necessairly what's good for the gander, so can we just leave it at that?
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olive
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Post by olive on Jun 20, 2008 15:09:13 GMT -5
In no way am i completely intoxicated by it though. But you are. Why else would it help you sleep? One shot does not make you drunk
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Post by Nu-Metal Garrett on Jun 20, 2008 15:35:22 GMT -5
and returning to this, they didn't mention anything about girls?! that's because girl's cant be straight edge /sarcasm this documentary alternately made me want to go get wasted and never drink again depending on which part i was watching. to be honest, i kind of wish they WOULD have focused more on the militant kids, becasue those dudes always bring the lolz with their bring back prohibition/kill your local drug dealer bullshit. as a documentary id give it probably a 7 out of 10, but everyone thats getting butthurt needs to realize...this video came from people outside of a given "scene" and while sure, they did focus on a lot of the negative, that was the entertaining parts, so therefore they focused on it. the whole first section with the positive stuff while cool for those of us who like punk / hardcore would probably be boring as fuck to the casual observer, but throw boston beatdown in there and it becomes entertaining. Im not edge, i dont plan on being edge...i do go through long periods where im "straight" in a manner of speaking. but to be frank, if any of my freinds decided not to be my friends becasue i decide to enjoy an occasional beer, they can go fuck themselves. just becasue Project X said it, doesnt mean it has to be true
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Post by monica on Jun 20, 2008 15:58:28 GMT -5
furthermore, i'm pretty sure that when you say you don't drink or do drugs for the "simple reason" to not be a fucking idiot, is in my opinion taking the same extremist stance that you say you're opposed to - i do drink and do drugs and i, nor people that know me, would call me a fucking idiot when i stopped drinking and doing drugs it was for the reason that i was being a fucking idiot. many friends of mine are straight edge to avoid a similar fate. absolutely not everyone who drinks and does drugs is an idiot, and far from it. being a "fucking idiot" is independent to the fact of whether one drinks or doesn't, but it's not extrinsic altogether. you could drink 40z every day and be less of a trainwreck than some of the militants in the film. this is why i stress personal choice of consumption over this wolfpack mentality of crew kids. if you revisit mackaye's lyrics i think you'll see they coincide with my ethos against idiot drunkard meathead motherfuckers. ps. i drink now and it still doesn't change my opinion on the matter. flex your head.
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Post by Nu-Metal Garrett on Jun 20, 2008 17:22:11 GMT -5
there's always a thread like this on the board every few months or so, i'm surprised it's only 3 pages long at this point everyone should watch every ian mckaye interview they can get their hands on, and see what he has to say about staight edge and how it's completely become this thing that he never intended it to be also, just because that's when hardcore got it's start, doesn't make today's scene any less "real" furthermore, i'm pretty sure that when you say you don't drink or do drugs for the "simple reason" to not be a fucking idiot, is in my opinion taking the same extremist stance that you say you're opposed to - i do drink and do drugs and i, nor people that know me, would call me a fucking idiot but yes, what's good for the goose is not necessairly what's good for the gander, so can we just leave it at that? you're a fucking idiot ....better? <3
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Post by Who's Tanya? on Jun 20, 2008 22:28:10 GMT -5
Foreigner
-Marc
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Post by genericpawel on Jun 20, 2008 22:31:07 GMT -5
ONE TWO X U not just that... i think its really stupid to completely shun something without ever trying it, you can judge most of the time by how people you know act... but its all independant anyways I've been "straight" untill a few weeks ago when i decided to stop being and idiot not knowing and actually try it it wasn't too bad.. i dont see myself ever drinking that often... maybe even never Thats my two cents... throw them away if you wish
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Post by pink_shoes AKA gary nicman on Jun 21, 2008 1:31:51 GMT -5
One shot does not make you drunk evidently it makes you dumb as fuck tho... why do you think it helps you sleep, because it tastes so fucking good? the idea of not poisoning your body doesn't mean not getting wasted it means not using drugs as a crutch to get through life. Your theory is also irrelevant.
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Post by James Brown on Jun 21, 2008 10:40:02 GMT -5
One shot does not make you drunk evidently it makes you dumb as fuck tho... why do you think it helps you sleep, because it tastes so fucking good? the idea of not poisoning your body doesn't mean not getting wasted it means not using drugs as a crutch to get through life. Your theory is also irrelevant. qft
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